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silviagod 16-08-2006 10:10

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Originally Posted by gripo
get a 3000gt Den!!! haha!! by the way i have split with the missus. My silvia is up for sale!!!!

Fek Grippo! sorry to hear about you splitting up with both the missus and the Silvia.
Den, I thought you were bringing the car up to me to have the wiring sorted?

Japster 16-08-2006 14:29

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Originally Posted by silviagod
Fek Grippo! sorry to hear about you splitting up with both the missus and the Silvia.
Den, I thought you were bringing the car up to me to have the wiring sorted?

Hi God! :D

Yep - I'm dying to bring her up mate - Unfortunately a bloody hose split/leaks (and it's near the tubby! :eek: ), and in addition to that, I don't think she'll make it to yours! - I got home (Just!) when I noticed the erratic idling problem - I've charged the battery up now, but it's still erratic mate?!?! - Also missing a bit, and can't risk driving it as a result... :eek:

Might see if I can borrow a trailer.... :)

Will DEF. be up though mate - it'll be reallly good catching up and sorting my electrics out once and for all! :D (Just have to sort out these other bloody problems first if I can't find a trailer... :(

Cheers again,


Den.

umpkin 16-08-2006 16:14

how is the dump valve condition, when my valve went tits up, that gave erratic idle and missfire.

PukkaSilvia 16-08-2006 18:37

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Originally Posted by umpkin
how is the dump valve condition, when my valve went tits up, that gave erratic idle and missfire.

Thats a good point.

Japster 17-08-2006 13:24

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Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia
Thats a good point.

It is - I took it off before I tried anything else! :confused: - Thanks though - It was my first suspicion too!

PS - Got under the car last night - The water feed hose from the turbo had been melted through - Just caught it in time, as the coating on the protective heat blanket had worn through, and contact with the turbo had scorched through to the inside of the hose in one tiny point...

Have replaced it with some more hose, and now looking for some more (better!) heat wrap... (was a real bitch to get to though!) - Will fix this, and then try to sort out another alternator...

Hopefully I'll be nipping up to God's either next weekend or the weekend after if all's well! (Must check with God first though... :p )

Fingers crossed I guess, but the battery that I put in last week's already lost all of it's charge, so that's ominous too - Probably got a short or something somewhere, but hopefully SG will sort it out along with the other problems! :D (Will try another battery of course first....)

Thanks to all of you for the advice and sugeestions - It's well appreciated! :)

Japster 24-08-2006 22:09

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Originally Posted by Japster
It is - I took it off before I tried anything else! :confused: - Thanks though - It was my first suspicion too!

PS - Got under the car last night - The water feed hose from the turbo had been melted through - Just caught it in time, as the coating on the protective heat blanket had worn through, and contact with the turbo had scorched through to the inside of the hose in one tiny point...

Have replaced it with some more hose, and now looking for some more (better!) heat wrap... (was a real bitch to get to though!) - Will fix this, and then try to sort out another alternator...

Hopefully I'll be nipping up to God's either next weekend or the weekend after if all's well! (Must check with God first though... :p )

Fingers crossed I guess, but the battery that I put in last week's already lost all of it's charge, so that's ominous too - Probably got a short or something somewhere, but hopefully SG will sort it out along with the other problems! :D (Will try another battery of course first....)

Thanks to all of you for the advice and sugeestions - It's well appreciated! :)

Well - Finally got my hands dirty again, and the hoses are back on - Started engine (on a charger pack!), and no leaks, though will def. need to invest in some heat wrap for the hoses - They're not touching any more, but I wanna make sure the same thing doesn't happen again, but this time 100+ miles away! :eek:

BITCH to get the alternator out, but nearly there - It's a bit tight in the ol' engine bay - lol!...

Found a place near me with one on the shelf - Re-con for £88... - Sound reasonable?... (Wanted £40 for fitting though, so f*ck that!)...

Should be winging my way up to Silviagod's for a cuppa in no time at this rate! - lol!

oh... erm... as soon as I get my clutch sorted that is! - The pedal was on the floor again after a week sat around, and the fluid was empty - Will grab a slave cylinder pronto methinks, and get under there again.... :rolleyes:

It's all good stuff though - I've become a bit braver and better off as a result of the advice and help from you guys, so I'll be buying some helpful people pints at the next event methinks! :D

Cheers,


Den.


PS - Car ran smooth while I had it hooked up to the booster/starter, and died the moment I cut the booster off, so pretty much shows that it'll be okay once the alternator's in and the battery's either replaced or charged up again.... I'm a happier chappy than last week... :)

PukkaSilvia 24-08-2006 22:40

excellent....... If you have an old s12 mk2 alternator lying around you could fit that.....

I found i had a broken wire from the alternator to the battery so i ran a new wire straight from the alternator-----(the nut terminal)(as theres too fittings on it)--- to the battery positive. It sorted mine out.

Yep the det alternator is a bit of a pain with the bigger inlet manifold above it and all the pipes.I had to change mine at the roadside in the pitch black with my cigerette lighter once and the rest by feel.it was in december and i couldnt even do it by feel by the end of it as i was numb. Really wasnt pleasent.I have a hate for changing s12 alternators for life now

Roscoe is pretty good with electrics etc. A trip to his would be better than going to norris in my opinion. You'd have your clutch and all sorts fixed in no time and be fed cups of tea aswell :1la



Id be interested to know what clutch hydraulic piston Norris have put on your belhousing Maybe Paul can have a closer look.It may be a s13 or s14 one. My cylinder still needs bleading and i need to do my gearbox oil too.Its on my to do list along with everything else lol

nissan_turbs 25-08-2006 09:09

12.5 is definatley to low a voltage. It should be ~13.5v. Do you have a multimeter? If so, leave the car off and disconnect the battery, switch the multimeter to the continuity tester (the one that beeps) and check the line between the alternator and the posotive clip for the battery. It should beep, or give a really low reading as its as close to a short circuit as your likley to get.

Failing that, measure the potential difference between the cars body and the output of the alternator. Also, not sure on a DET engine, but I would imagine it will have a second smaller wire which controlls the regulator, check that is firmly connected, or else it wont charge the battery.

Sounds to me like your alternator is dead to be honest.

Edit- Apparantly I should read the whole post before replying, sounds like youve got it all in hand.

Japster 25-08-2006 12:51

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Originally Posted by nissan_turbs
12.5 is definatley to low a voltage. It should be ~13.5v. Do you have a multimeter? If so, leave the car off and disconnect the battery, switch the multimeter to the continuity tester (the one that beeps) and check the line between the alternator and the posotive clip for the battery. It should beep, or give a really low reading as its as close to a short circuit as your likley to get.

Failing that, measure the potential difference between the cars body and the output of the alternator. Also, not sure on a DET engine, but I would imagine it will have a second smaller wire which controlls the regulator, check that is firmly connected, or else it wont charge the battery.

Sounds to me like your alternator is dead to be honest.

Edit- Apparantly I should read the whole post before replying, sounds like youve got it all in hand.

lol! - No, it's all good - I appreciate the help, and between what you and Pukka are saying, I think I'll re-check my wires *just in case* I've missed anything, before I decide to shell out £88 for another!...

The tip about the wire to the regulator sounds promising - I 'll check if I have one, and if so, if it's connected!

Cheers guys,


Den.

Japster 28-08-2006 18:54

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Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia
excellent....... If you have an old s12 mk2 alternator lying around you could fit that.....

I found i had a broken wire from the alternator to the battery so i ran a new wire straight from the alternator-----(the nut terminal)(as theres too fittings on it)--- to the battery positive. It sorted mine out.

Yep the det alternator is a bit of a pain with the bigger inlet manifold above it and all the pipes.I had to change mine at the roadside in the pitch black with my cigerette lighter once and the rest by feel.it was in december and i couldnt even do it by feel by the end of it as i was numb. Really wasnt pleasent.I have a hate for changing s12 alternators for life now

Roscoe is pretty good with electrics etc. A trip to his would be better than going to norris in my opinion. You'd have your clutch and all sorts fixed in no time and be fed cups of tea aswell :1la



Id be interested to know what clutch hydraulic piston Norris have put on your belhousing Maybe Paul can have a closer look.It may be a s13 or s14 one. My cylinder still needs bleading and i need to do my gearbox oil too.Its on my to do list along with everything else lol

Heh .... Wouldya believe - it was the bloody nut terminal! - The wire was on, but corroded to f*ck! - Chopped it back, re-attached, and a healthy 14.25 volts across the battery, and the car kept running when I'd removed the booster pack... :)

Cheers guys, I'm a lot happier now (and I didn't waste another £88 of my hard-earned on another needless alternator!)... :D

Now all I have to do before I can proceed with my mission to SG's is to bleed the clutch again ... :rolleyes: (Pedal's on the floor, and can
t even pump it back to life, so it's gonna be another bleed job I guess - Will grab a new slave cylinder from Nissan if they're def. only £21!... :)

Nice one all who helped me!... :D


Den.


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