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s12Rob 25-11-2006 13:03

thicker metal head gaskets
 
does anyone do one for the s12?

northerner 25-11-2006 17:49

Fl EBAY.com or .com.au

JackieFan 27-11-2006 10:31

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CA18E...spagenameZWD1V

30psi 27-11-2006 10:50

Why do you want a thicker head gasket? What are you trying to achieve?

s12Rob 27-11-2006 13:12

thicker gasket so can run more boost and will be stronger

30psi 27-11-2006 13:23

The CA18ET is already 8:1.

It don't need to be any lower unless you want ridiculous boost.

s13eater 27-11-2006 13:50

i ran 32psi with the stock gasket.

smoker 27-11-2006 17:48

Thicker gasket would upset the cam timing and also harm off boost performance and fuel economy imho

30psi 28-11-2006 08:40

The cam would be advanced by less than a degree with even a 2mm gasket, so its not anything significant.

The off boost power would be reduced.

Dez 28-11-2006 22:35

All of the above plus the fact that the boost depends on a fine balance between the comprssion ratio and the volume of air been induced into the cylinders. Yes the engine will take in more air, but what you gain you'll lose automatically becase the compression ratio will be far less. Sorry mate but you'll acheive nothing.

Beany-s12 28-11-2006 22:43

surely the increase in boost pressure that he's lookin to gain from doing this will over compensate the loss of compression!

sideways danny 28-11-2006 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beany-s12
surely the increase in boost pressure that he's lookin to gain from doing this will over compensate the loss of compression!


but the ET is already a low compression engine, at 8:1 it's lower than a lot of turbo engines of the same era, newer turbo engines seem to be running a lot higher CR. the Audi/VW 1.8T is 9.5:1 for instance. IMO you don't need to go lower than 8:1.

The engine I'm building will have re-worked combustion chambers but I will skim the head to compensate

CNHSS1 29-11-2006 07:52

i thought the ET was 8.5:1:confused:

30psi 29-11-2006 08:34

Nope its defo 8:1.

sideways danny 29-11-2006 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNHSS1
i thought the ET was 8.5:1:confused:


no, the DET it 8.5:1 the difference is almost entirely down to the larger chamber volume of the head, the pistons aren't dimensionally much different really

smoker 29-11-2006 22:25

I skimmed 40thou of my head when I rebuilt so i reckon my CR is 8:5 - 9.0:1. No problems with detonation so far, i plan on using water injection if I hear any when I up the boost further.

sideways danny 30-11-2006 01:00

I make that about 8.7:1

30psi 30-11-2006 11:19

Yeah I make it 8.65:1 with 83mm pistons, and with 84mm pistons 8.85:1

sideways danny 30-11-2006 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30psi
Yeah I make it 8.65:1 with 83mm pistons, and with 84mm pistons 8.85:1


do you know the exact chamber size? I had to reverse engineer the calculation to work that out.

30psi 30-11-2006 11:58

I used reverse technology as well to provide a combustion size of 64.61cc.

CNHSS1 30-11-2006 12:34

the only reverse technology i use is to get off the driveway in the mornings:p

smoker 30-11-2006 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30psi
Yeah I make it 8.65:1 with 83mm pistons, and with 84mm pistons 8.85:1

I'm using 0.5mm oversize pistons so I guess I have 8.7$:1, hope to gain more power with less boost pressure & lag....or it might blow a hole in a piston :confused:
Tested the mileage again and it's come out at 36mpg so i think it's helping the economy a bit


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