Help to choose my starter
 

Ok, my starter is dead and here in France reconditionner factory are hard to find.

I found a website which sell them, in France, seems two models in S12, mine mk1,5 with mk1 motor.

My question is: is it interesting to fit the most powerfull one (1 vs 1.6)

http://www.altdiscount.com/affichear...mmat=0&moteur=

http://www.altdiscount.com/affichear...mmat=0&moteur=

Oh, i'll take out the starter this week-end? Who've done this, easy?

Cheers.

Mine has the later 1.6kw version.

Whats actually wrong with your starter motor?

"clic" sound, wires connected ok, no dust on it, checked relays in black box near battery, battery charged, no ecu fault code (for neutral position and other possiblities).

It appears after a track day suddenly no sign before this...

Use something hard and knok a few times iat the back of the starter. If it helps and te car will start u are 100% sure its time to replace it.

Thats an issue with the starter solenoid. It needs rebuilding and cleaning. I used wd40 to lubricate but i heard its better to use graphite.

But alundra says tht selenoid works. The click sound. It may be that the brush the things that brings voltage to the commutator locked.

Just change it for a different one its a 15 minute job tops.

Even though its clicking it isnt travelling the full distance due to the gunge inside the cylinder.

Mine clicked, i cleaned it and it worked.

30PSI speaks the truth.

Mine started clicking on the recent bank holiday friday.
* took it off - found it an arse to get to, could probably do it a bit easier now I have located the two bolts.
* took it apart (dont take the c clip of the main shaft like i did :furious )
* put it back together after cleaning with WD40 and then luubing with a tiny amount of copper grease.
* works fine now :D

cost of new starter saved = £120 or if you go to Halfords £283!

Not incredibly difficult but here's a few pointers:

Disconnect the battery
Remove the bracket on the side of the inlet manifold
Remove both wires, ones a plug and the other is held by a 10 or 12mm nut.
Get a 14mm spanner preferably a rachet spanner
Remove the 2 bolts holding it to the gearbox
Remove the cylinder on the side of the starter, this is the solenoid. Its held by 2 long thin bolts. Be careful with the clip but chances are it will spring out.
Clean up the solenoid, refit and enjoy a new starter motor.

Probably looking at 1-2 hours to do it

or get one for an S13 like others have done which are lighter!

Still hurts when you drop them on your feet though lol.

All the time I've been in France I've never seen a single S-chassis car so can only imagine getting parts is near on impossible.

Ok,

With your advices, remove the starter was easy, thanks!

Some pics:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/599...eur1rj9.th.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6...eur2cz0.th.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6...eur3hs8.th.jpg

I saw some new/reconditioned starter, in France, but:

-they have a "cover" on gear area: http://www.altdiscount.com/affichear...mmat=0&moteur=

According too me this fit: http://www.altdiscount.com/affichear...mmat=0&moteur=

I found this site too: http://www.woodauto.com/Unit.aspx?Ma...I&Ref=S114322A

Can a 1 kilowatt model fit on mine? What is the cover on th e gear, like a cap?

Just clean the solenoid

Ok, some news...

It seems it isn't the starter, test mine and an another.
I tested many relays (specialy gray relay near battery, controlled for ignition right?).
battery charged and tested

Ok, let me explain my troubles:

2 wires fits on the starter: one black/yellow little size ordered by ignition, one black/red normal size which go to the battery.

When the plugs are on the starter (metal shield of starter on a ground of the car), when i join together the 2 wires said upper, by an external wire, starter work perfectly (gear exit and turn), but when i turn the key only nothing appear.

I know that my english isn't good, but in my mind it's the black/yellow wire that is in fault because the continuity of the "normal" wire exist, no doubt about it.

The solution i expect to install a start button relay (how many Amperes?) to command the ignition.

Do you have any hint or help about my starter trouble?

Cheers.

Yeah sounds like the starter signal wire at the back of the igntion barrel is at fault.

I would trace it back to there before thinking about adding a button

According to the diagram where is this wire pass?

Cheers. ;)

Ok is this pic correct i'd like to fix this tomorrow:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1135/test1pt2.th.jpg

:confused:

i had exactly the prob you have, i was on holiday and i turned the key, nothing, i temp wired a switch from the batt through switch to starter, was fine, and then after about 1 and half weeks it worked again, this was about 6 year ago, and has never had a prob since, so i cant solve your prob, but i can say, temp wire a switch in for now while you test the rest.

i had the same problem, but fell to sleep thinking about doing it lol.

Ok finally first temp with switch, completly a success!

It's so cool to drive our car, i forget it!

It seems that behind the fuse box exists a ignition relay i can clearly heard it.

So i think there are 2 relays related for ignition near battery and near fuse box.

Thanks to all, again ;)