What the???
 

Is it April already? lol.

If it was that easy to break down water into component parts, it would have been done years ago. It would probably take more energy to release Hydrogen than it was worth. Basically I call this BULL.

Can't believe people would actually buy this.

Matthew

If it`s that good, I`m pretty certain I would be charging more than £1.25 for it :p .
Regards,
Ian.

4 people so far:eek: i might buy 1 to sell on!

Look it up on google (plenty of stuff about the guy stan on you tube as well).

Interesting but, kinda but a bit like the skycar thing as well. I'm sure given the idea that companies would have tried it buy now, but the only thing is that big companies are in bed with oil companies.

Matthew

Anyone want to buy some sky hooks, buckets of steam or rocking horse shit :rolleyes: . I`ve got plenty for sale, going cheap....LOL.....
I can`t believe people actually believe his ad :confused: .
Regards,
Ian.

lol, how much for just the rocking horse? I could make a lot of money from that! :D

Matthew

anyone wanna buy 1 of these as well- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Superb-Air-Gui...QQcmdZViewItem

lol, nice! :ghey

Matthew

LOL..... The rocking horse is free to a good home, but he does chew the curtains ;) .
Seriously though, I`ve been doing some more research on this water thing. If you wanted to do it, you would need a full stainless exhaust (as a mild steel one would rust out too quickly). Injectors, valves and pistons would all have to be ceramic coated (to stop the rust again). Plus you would need a degree in electrical engineering just to set up the circuit boards etc.
Better sticking to good old petrol, and NOS if you want more power :rolleyes: .
Regards,
Ian.

LOL..... I might buy that to go with my piece of "Britney Spears" hair and "Lord Lucan`s" hat.....LOL......
Regards,
Ian.

Dont be so small minded.

The most powerfull networks/economies and people live on the oil industry. Theres no way that any of them would promote the downfall of it or free energy. The typical attidude that you all have is exactly what the media-controlled by the same people- promote.

As soon as a revelation happens it normally appears in a science fiction program straight after. Its a way of making the masses ridicule it for being dreamed up by star trek geeks.

Ever wondered why so many really old sci-fi programs are pretty accurate to technology that has been released 15 years ater on.......

Firstly sorry, if I offended you Jon, I was only having a bit of fun :p .

I`ve done some more checking on the subject, it is possible to do, but you would actually be burning hydrogen and not water. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis (see "Brown`s Gas" or "Hydroxy" on the internet). The main problems are ceramic coatings (as stated in my previous post about rust proofing the exhaust etc) and the amount of energy needed to convert the water into hydrogen and oxygen. The amount of hydrogen released would be less than the amount of energy required to make the reaction happen.

It`s actually more cost effective to convert a car to dual-fuel, than it is to convert the car to run on water.

The "Tomorrows World" programme that this was originally featured on was shown on the 1st April, I think this says something about the process ;) .

If anyone wants to try this out, here is a link to download the conversion process :
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm

Oil companies would be against the process if it was viable, I agree. But they didn`t manage to stop lpg or bio-diesel from being produced.

Like I said, sorry if I offended you, I was only having a bit of fun. But I`m still waiting to see a warp drive engine or working teleporter :p .

Regards,
Ian.

im not offended.

Kimberly was going to try this, we all ripped the piss out of him.

Until there is a time that hydrogen can be released from water cheaply than I can't see it happening.

Don`t get me wrong, if I thought it would actually work and be cost effective and easy to set up, I would probably try it myself. But the fact that it was first shown over ten years ago on the "Tomorrows World" programme on April 1st, sort of puts it into perspective ;) .
You`ve got to admit though, it does sound pretty far fetched when you first hear about it.
If someone can perfect the process in the future, I will be the first to hold my hand up and say I was wrong :D .
Regards,
Ian.

This would violate the first law of thermodynamics ie, energy cannot be created or destroyed but can only change it's form.
Put another way more electrical power is needed to break the Hydrogen-oxygen bond in water than would be turned into useful power through burning the hydrogen so the car would never run :)

They said planet earth was flat once

RIP stan meyer

Wow thought this might spark som einterest wasnt expecting it to start a mass dibate lol well thought you would all have something to say about it.

It`s been like a night at my local pub, except that nobody`s been punched yet or tried to chat up the barmaid....LOL....:p .
You have started a good debate though ;) .
Regards,
Ian.

Or from wikipedia which in a roundabout way says its an urban legend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

I tried to settle this argument one way or the other last night buy performing some experiments of my own.

I took a 04 plate Vauxhall Corsa, disconnected the fuse for the fuel pump then ran the vehicle until it stalled, spun it over some more to confirm that I'd drained the remaining Unleaded from the fuel lines.

Next I took a 24mm hole saw and, at the lowest point drilled a hole in the fuel tank. The remaining thirty or so litres spilled into the readied paper bag I had carefully placed under the area I was to drill. Putting that to one side so as not to waste any for after I'd finished my experiment I then wheeled the Vauxhall into the Farms workshop.

I used my new Dyson hoover (with antibacterial filters so that I could keep my project as controlled as possible without risk of contamination from "rouge" elements) to suck the remaining fuel vapor from the 24mm hole in my tank. Quickly realising my mistake I removed the filler cap and continued my efforts from the top side (fuel vapour is lighter than air so hoovering from the bottom of the tank would have only removed half of the remaining vapor)

Using a section cut from the bottom of a fiberglass rowing boat and some clear silicone sealer (I didn't want my experiment to be affected buy the colour of the White bathroom sealant that was also readily available to me) I covered the hole in the bottom of the tank.

Next I carefully measured and cut 6.5 meters of common garden hose, fixing a female connector to one end and the male to a metal tap at the back of the workshop. I then connected the hose to the wall at one end and fed it down the filler neck of the vauxhalls fuel cell at the other. Being careful to disconnect the battery first so as not to risk a fire! I proceeded to fill the vauxhall with 45 liters of normal tap water. I replaced the fuel cap, connected the battery and slid into the drivers seat brimming with the anticipation of my results and cranked the key.

6 hours and 10 batteries later I still hadn't managed to start the car, proving once and for all that I don't have the knowledge skills or tools to be testing any type of scientific theory in my shed, and now I need a car.

Moron out! :trout

LOL... at JackieFan.....classic :D :D :D .
So basically you are telling us that we should either try it for ourselves and get a definitive answer or let the thread die, because we don`t have the knowledge to prove or disprove the theory ;) .
I guess we are all just a bunch of "armchair scientists".....:p .


Love the bit about the experiment controls with sealant and the dyson...LOL....FOCWL....

small closed minds

Okay then, why not prove us all wrong ;) . The patent on Stan Meyer`s device is now in the public domain and the plans can be downloaded for free.
There`s still too much "cloak and dagger" surrounding this project -
1). The H2earth website giving reasons why civilisation could be wiped out before the end of this century.
2). Stan Meyer`s mysterious "black box" that controls the process.
3). The fact that there are no verified figures available for power outputs etc, carried out on the same engine before and after the process.
4). The poisoning of the inventor.
5). The fact that mysterious officials are raiding premises where people are trying to carry out the process commercially and taking away their plans and related paperwork.
It sounds too much like an episode of the X-files ;) .

But if you can prove us doubters wrong, I will happily stand up and apologise and say I was wrong. I can`t be fairer than that :D .

In fact if anyone, who lives closer to me, wants to try the process, I will gladly give them a hand.

Sceptical....me ?
Regards,
Ian.

I have been looking into it for sometime with a collegue from work. i know its public domain,i have had a copy of it for a long time. Along with various other plans. I have also been in contact with designers of hydrogen generators,and spoken to high level oil consultants on the subject. It is not the right time for me to be concentrating on experimentation as i am in the middle of setting up my own business.
Wether you believe any of the above doesnt really bother me. I should just keep quiet and edit my posts and laugh at the subject like i did last time when richk suggested it:p

If i were to make a vehicle you standing up and apologising would be the last of my concerns.

Ok, so it's a gas engine.

Where does all the electricity come from to perform the conversion(splitting off of) from water to hydrogen?

Matthew

Oh well never mind, I`m sure someone will prove me wrong one day :p .
Good luck with the Business anyway, is it going to be s12 related ? Starting up a new Business is an exciting time, I hope it all goes well for you :D .
Regards,
Ian.