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Interest in Fibreglass Panels
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From the wanted thread of mine i see there is interest in fibreglass parts, what sort of parts would you be intrerested in and what sort of spec? ie Race spec or Road trim. What sort of price would you guys see as acceptable for the below parts? -Wings -Bonnet -Doors -Boot (may be tricky) Thanks John ps if i need to be a registered trader to do this please advise through pm. |
I guess if we replaced every panel possible with FG we'd all be flying
But we'd be pretty much fubar'd in a accident. :o Can we get a FG chassis and inner wings? that's where mine rot most.... :) :) :) |
Bonnet
I got qouted £170 for a one off bonnet in fibreglass standard spec a while ago, not a bad price i rckon
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Bonnet
Yeh but it was a one item mould if you know what i mean, the quality of the kits he makes were not to good , it was the bloke i bought the m3 side skirts from has been turning out some proper rubbish stuff as he now makes copy tvr front ends so spends more time on that sort of stuff, would have done it if i could have had assured of the quality.:)
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the hatch would be light enough if we could get some lexan rear windows made.
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would be very interested :D do you have any price quotes yet??
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Bonnet and hatch should be essential though, the rear hatch is probably at least twice the weight of the bonnet. |
Seems like there is some interest, i could do a group buy on stuff but would need a minimum amount of people who pay a 50% deposit.
If not interested in this i would do individual items which will cost more as there is no certain amount of products to be sold. Rough prices for group buy -Wings £100 for a pair -Bonnet £175 for one std bonnet -Doors - £150 each £275 for a pair -Boot £250 as it will be tricky to make a mold of. Let me know if that suits anyones budget and i will make some up and get this rolling. The prices for individual sales would be as follows: -Wings £150 for a pair -Bonnet £225 for one std bonnet -Doors - £175 each £300 for a pair -Boot £300 as it will be tricky to make a mold of. Thanks John |
i would donate a mk2 bonnet with SE bulge if i got a good discount ;) .
doors would be good as they weigh a ton, if i could replace most things in fiberglass then i could put a cage in there and it wun't be to heavy. |
FG Wings & stuff
Hi
I could be interested in a set of front wings, road spec. Got an 86 prefacelift I want to restore, only bad bit body wise, so far, are the wings. I do have a complete pre facelift S12, which I am going to break soon, bonnet is still in good nick, if you needed as a templet. not sure how would get to you though, as don't know where you are & I live near Portsmouth. Daz |
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Thanks John |
Also with the fibreglass doors please be aware of the safety implications, ie no good in a side impact ensure you have a cage with door bars before fitting!!
Also for a road car as mentioned before these can be broken into easier than metal if you right tools! Thanks John |
would the bonnet be ok at high speeds?, as the guy with the red race s12 had to put some strenthening bars in because it was flexing at speed and i will possibley doing top speed runs when its finished.
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Count me in!
:D I'd love a pair of front wings!!!!! no more isopon! and possibly bonnet doors and boot for that matter!..
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The main thing that would cause a problem is if the bonnet isn't securely fastened, the bonnet will flex, but that is just the characteristics of the materials, hence aramid to strenghen it. However Aramid is quite expensive so costs would rise. Thanks John |
just had a look at aramid prices and it should be about £75 more for aramid reinforcement, however is still feel this is unecessary as it will be plenty strong enough, i am using good quality fibreglass so it will be very stiff.
Thanks John |
Hi mate am currently after a pair of front wings for my s12 and fiberglass sounds like a good solution when your ready let me know and i will definetly have a pair off you cheers Phil
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you only need to roll up some card or similer and make a corner to corner diagonal cross structure underneath and then another one on the front lip of the bonnet and then fibreglass over with the second or third layer. That will strenghten it enough for about 20p and it looks prefectly fine
then measure the bonnet thickness where the hinges bolt on and then put in some wood between the layers in the corners to the right thickness. You can then screw the origianl hinges to it It wont be strong enough with out reinforcement unless your going to make it really thick and heavy |
I am currently working on a tailgate for the s12 but will be some time, dont expect immediate results as good results demand good preparation & planning.
As for reinforcements, i would not like to trust a piece of cardboard rolled up for reinforcement on these bonnets. I am looking at other methods of reinforcments, that are cost viable. There are lots available i just want the best suited for the job. Thanks John |
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This method is used in the race car industry. Its light and It works |
Is it possible to get some fibreglass pistons and conrods made up too?
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have to agree with Pukka re the cardboard, works well :)
i use proper PVC foam sheet, usually 6mm, between the laminates and makes it mega stiff with very little weight addition. cheap enough too from glass suppliers. in fact its less than cardboard as it doesnt really absorb resin (the heavy bit of the process). another really useful product is 3mm foam core. ive made a couple of bonnets and panels using it now, very very light although about £5/m2. does help make the panel quite resilient too. its full of perferations so you have to be careful not to use excess resin and 'soak' the core, best to lay up the resin with a pound shop paint roller rather than a piant brush to get a thin even light coat. as an example a std fibreglass scimitar bonnet is 15.6kg, the ones i made weigh 5kg with no aramid or carbon ;) Aramid fibre cloth (kevlar) is mega resilient but a bit of a bastard to work with. it doesnt 'wet out' easily, and doesnt go round curves easily and defo doesnt do corners! real sod to cut too, you need shears rather than scissors and when its had the resin applied and cured, its a cutting disc in the angle grinder really. doesnt sand either. |
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What fabric do you use? I use woven roving which is good for this, it is dearer than csm but far superior in amount of resin used compared to csm. So overall lighter weight. |
im too tight to buy the proper shears lol
ive been using a mixture of glass weaves, for the main flat areas of the panels ive used 300gm tight twill weave (2x2 iirc) with a thin even layer of gelcoat (used a paint roller again as you get less on the panel than with a brush) with 450chop strand mat for the corners and edges of the panels where they need a bit of building up or to make them easy to handle (front of bonnet where you open it etc). usually thin gelcoat, two 300gm weave, 3mm foam core then either another 300gm weave or csm (weave looks nicer but not really necessary). tip with the foam core, dont take it to the edges of the panel, leave 2"-3" from the egdes and use csm instead. i use csm a lot though, with foam core it makes a mega light and fair bit stiffer than the same equiv thickness of csm or weave and much easier to wet out and get into corners and round curves. |
Did anything ever come of this Fibreglassing.
just bought Shauns bonnet and would like to get some Glassfibre moulds done before i put some vents in it. |
yeah what ever happened to this? :(
i know a few of you are down sussex way, anyone approached http://www.sussexcompositesltd.co.uk/ ? Would love wings/bonnet/hatch! |
Ok, have asked the question of them, here's response:
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