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s12-newbie 05-01-2009 15:05

HID light kit anyone use them & know what works???
 
i'm thinking of getting a HID kit for my s12 to update the lights & wanted some advice on what to look for/get or if they cant be used on our cars?

if they cant what bulbs can i use???? as my headlamp light at night is dire!

doski 05-01-2009 15:26

prob use an s13 one

s12-newbie 05-01-2009 15:47

i've read the threads on crystal lights & pukka's seem to be the only decent working ones!

i dont even know due to not checking if the standard s12 mk2 headlamps are seald beam or they have bulbs???? bad i know!

my lights are really bad! my old mini sealed beams are brighter & the silvia lamps have just been adjusted right at the MOT???? AS I ADJUSTED THEM LOL

if s12 kit fits then i'd go that route, what are you chaps using? i know some of you on here dont see it as apriority as your s12 is your 2nd/fun car where as mine is my daily

my side lights have given up the ghost due to corrosion of the bulb holder so i need to sort them asap

paulsilv 06-01-2009 00:33

Took my motor out the other night and my lights are shocking also, just had a quick scout round on the net and replacements/crystal ones seem to be hard to find, has anyone else found any or know of a place???

rob turbo 06-01-2009 16:41

yep, im needing some decent bulbs as i cant see much in the dark when mine are lit..!

any ideas

30psi 06-01-2009 16:53

I have HID's on my Datsun. They're pretty easy to fit, and they're very cheap now days.

They do glare other drivers so not the best to have on a car thats not designed to take them, but oh well.

doski 06-01-2009 16:55

i got a new set of nissan ones but the cost £55 per unit and can take a while to come

johnny485 06-01-2009 19:59

Headlamps.
 
Hi Chaps,

I was just reading the posts about issues with the silvia headlamps at night. As far as HID's are concerned, I wouldn't bother. Oh yes! They are nice to have and to a degree 'fashionable' but also expensive, and as Martin said, They do glare drivers at night, I know, I'm one of them.

Don't for one minute think I have something against them, I don't. What I could recommend, is a set of replacement filaments (bulbs) from ring, the filaments are H4 designs and come in at £17 or there-abouts, they offer increased light output Approx 30% which is crisper than the originals but at the same power and they fit straight in as the originals so no fannying around trying to get them to work properly.

You will be able to purchase these filaments at any good auto store. Why not ask.

I hope this will be of some assistance to anyone out there in silvia land that needs a quick filament replacement / upgrade that works well and is good value for money.

Best regards,

john

paulsilv 07-01-2009 22:51

Am I right in thinking we could then just throw any H4 bulbs in??? Would it matter if they were 100W or any different???

Would this have an effect on other electrics or would they be more prone to blowing???

PHHHHeww!!!!!!!!!!!

Lots of questions there:D

ChEsTeR 13-01-2009 12:10

I used one a 100W H4 white light bulbs on my s12 and it did do any good.
Standard H4 bulbs are better. Or maybe the ones i used was a cheep crap and that was the problem.

lmrdave 13-01-2009 13:28

100W bulbs are for off road only . . . but as use them as my silvia seems to spend as much time off road (see getting fixed on the driveway) than it does on the road :D

They were an improvement over the previous bulbs, no problems with them. With higher watt bulbs you tend to get the light pattern diffusing a bit.

If you really want to see at night I recommend having 2 hella rallye 3000 FF's one with pencil beam lens and the other with a driving lens, spot on (no pun intended) :D .

Jash 24-01-2009 12:02

Silvias have the same shape head lamps as S13, MK3 supras, RX7, etc
Almost any jap car with pop up lights.

Check ebay.

Jash 24-01-2009 12:17

Silvias have the same shape head lamps as S13,MK3 supras, RX7, etc
Almost any jap car with pop up lights.

I used to have a set of cristal clear lights on my s13 witch are pritty good and cheap. From china on Ebay.:D

As for fitting higher watt lamps you will draw more current and could melt the wiering loom to the lights incl the Switch.:eek:

I think the problem could be the reflective part of the lamp getting dull or coming off, or not anuf power getting to the lamps. Bad earths!!!:(

Had bad lights on all VW I have driven as well, so a electiction friend came up with the Idear of fitting larger cabels to the head lamps and using the old system just to switch them on via a relay.
The problem with most (old) cars is you are trying to get over, is the large amont of small shitty cable, conections, switches and relays.:ghey

With this done, what a diffrens it made and I still used the old bulbs.
This may need a auto electrition to fit unless you confident.

I think I will do all I can on my s12, New head lamps, better bulbs (correct watt) and larger wirering, but not to big as the risistans will also go up.

Can any electical dude confurm this???

Or by a Million candel power torch and stick it to the bonnet.

johnny485 25-01-2009 00:46

HID lamps.
 
In answer to your question re above.

The silvia and other cars wiring looms are designed to handle a certain amount of current at the nominal voltage of 12 Volts. If you fit higher power lamps either internally or externally and try to run them off of the existing loom, the lamps will be drawing more current through the loom to satisfy their need. This will in turn lead to a situation where the loom will heat up. Now, as the the wiring looms in the S12's are pretty old, there will be ageing of the conductors leading to an increase in their resistance, this is inescapable, the net result no matter which way you slice it is; A heating effect with either excessive or higher current drawn.

If you really do want more powerful lamps and want to use them in the original position then as a matter of safety, I would make a replacement loom, connectors and all, and use a relay fed from the battery which would be switched from the original light stalk or control relay.

This of course seems rather a lot of work but, considering I do not know exactly the headroom designed into the loom and taking into account the ageing effects of it this, I'm afraid to say, is the best I can offer at this time.

kind regards,

john

RichardK 25-01-2009 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by s12-newbie (Post 28641)
i've read the threads on crystal lights & pukka's seem to be the only decent working ones!

I have them as well. They're hugely better than standard.

I will be going the HID route though. I have HIDs on my Discovery and when you're driving along, everyone elses lights look like candles in comparison.

HID is the way to go, without any doubt. Also they're only around 35W each!

paulsilv 25-01-2009 11:47

Does anyone know if these would fit???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/89-94-Nissan-2...3A1|240%3A1318

johnny485 26-01-2009 02:06

Do these fit?
 
I have just had a look at the HID's on the ebay site following your link. These lamp units are built into a set of pop up lamp covers. I'm sure some chap associated with the S12 club had built a set of these. I have a sneaky feeling he may be directly or indirectly involved with these on the ebay site, my thinking here is that these units would fit the silvia with minimal adjustment.

If you decide to go with these on the strength of this let me know how you get on.

Best regards,

john:)

paulsilv 26-01-2009 23:26

Move the decimal point and I'll have them (£14.99):D

Bit rich for me after paying only £250 for the car.

I know Hans retro fitted some covers to the top of his lamp covers and they looked sweet
http://www.nissansilvia.co.uk/vbb/sh...ht=hanshttp://


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