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screamer or not?????????????
just ordered a new turbo for my s12, so do i fit a screamer pipe? my car is mainly a track car so i'm ltd to 98db. will a screamer be too loud. this is my 1st turbo car so i apolagise if i'm asking stupid questions??
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also do anyone know of a aftermarket exhaust manifold? or if a ca18det will fit?
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CNHSS1 races his SS1 reliant and that has a external waste-gate, pm him.
The CA18DET exhaust mani wont fit as a straight swap but an aftermarket one can be modded to fit. CNHSS1 did this to his and i am sure there are pictures somewhere KEN made his own mani from scratch with good results :) |
i got a top mount made to, rich k has it, perhaps he could put some pics up,;)
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http://www.nissansilvia.co.uk/vbb/sh...light=manifold
above is the original thread, although some of the pics have been deleted, but work your way through. Ext wastegate is a pain in terms of fabrication but the boost doesnt spike and is super stable. with the extra gasses exiting to the atmosphere (rather than rejoining the main exh) theres less back pressure restriction meaning a 2.5" system is fine for near 300hp. with internal wastegate it would probably need a 3" system which would be tight to fit in my car. |
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What is a screamer pipe anyway ? |
Re: Screamer pipe
Hi,
I've got a stainless screamer pipe for sale will fit t25-t28 turbo, complete with gaskets. Only used for a couple of months and is as new condition. Selling as breaking engine, £30 posted. Thanks Simon |
Its just a seperate exh from the wastegate itself to vent the extra gasses after the preset boost level has been reached. i think the yanks came up with the screamer term as once the ext wastegate opens the screamer pipe is essentially an unsilenced exh:eek:
ebay has loads of screamer elbows which arent the real deal (no performance advantage) they can sound a bit pants and often bugger up the idle/low speed running of the car. only way is a proper ext wastgate imho if you want to improve performance and reduce spiking to stop them being loud, you can re-join the screamer pipe back into the main exhaust. best bet is to rejoin minimum of 5ft from the turbo though or itll be a restriction (two lots of exh gasses squeezed into one pipe straight after the turbo) does that make sense? does in my head, but let me know and i will try and explain better:) |
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ok so would it be possible to silence the external wastegate or does this defete the object. but it needs to say under 98db I'm not looking for serious power as in my opinion 200 whp and car weight @ 1000kg this would make he car both reliable and fun.
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silencing a seperate EG exh is perfectly possible and common on some of the 80s serious Porsche and Audi race cars. look at using 2 stroke moped/small bike silencers as they shoudlnt be restrictive. also be sensible with the outlet. point it at the tarmac below the car and a lot of the noise is 'lost' as far as db sound meters are concerned. have it sticking out the bonnet or at the kerbside will only cause the track noise nazis to get uppity lol
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dont need to think about an external wastegate at that power IMO. FAR worse issues to think about first, like management/fueling (you'll need bigger injectors) intercooler, exhaust.
A T28 from an s14 on the standard manifold should do what you're after |
yep agree with Danny, the fabrication aint worth the grief
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fueling is sorted, 444cc injecters, 255 pump and apexi safc all here and ready to go on, so is turbo and exhaust the next thing i should be doing. or have i over looked something?
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Yopu haven't mentioned intercooling (in this thread) yet ? :)
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lol, cut a large hole in the bonnet and mounted a cooler there at 45 degrees
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