s12 or s13 engine mounts on ca18det
 

Anyone who has done the DET conversion can tell me weather its best to go with the s13 mounts on the DET? The reason I ask is that I cant get a spanner in the hole on the front sub frame to undo the S12 mounts. I know the
S12 mounts will bolt to the det block but with only 2 bolts were the s13 mounts have three.
:D

The S13 mounts can just bolt up. It's a bit of a tight squeeze I found with Nismo mounts, as I think the s13 subframe is prob 1cm wider where they bolt in

I want to use the S13 mounts but I cant get the s12 ones unbolted. I cant get a spanner in the gap to unbolt them. I aint dropping the subframe.

Ah shit, yeah you need a bit of a bent spanner.

I will try and bend a spanner tomorrow with a *ucken big hammer :1la :1la
Do you think the s12 mounts will be ok ? after all they are only 2 bolt v 3 bolt

Well it depends, if you're a lunatic trying, drifting, dumping the clutch etc then a weakness in those bolts will show up.

In my old S12 I had the bolts shear on the inlet side. The engine dropped a few inches. It didn't drop any further because the oil filter stuff itself in to the side of the amount. Made a hole in the oil filter though.

H'mmm I think I will try and bend a spanner tomorrow. If I cant undo them, they will have to stay stock :cool:

I've been using the s12 mount's for a couple of years without any problems.

Thats what I needed to hear! Thanks matey! :cool:
Did you find the same problem when installing the
DET ?? :confused:

I just bolted the engine straight onto the s12 mounts,I didn't bother taking them out of the car.

Seeing that the CA18DET was a factory option in the S12, I dont see why one would be so worried about the S12 mounts. The things to consider though are: their age, the wear and tear on them, how they seem to hold when testing motors and placement of the CA18DET and how much vibration is felt around the car. S13 mounts are probably better due to age and the fact that the mounts themselves are different and in some ways use different materials.

your failure was due to difference in bolt length and thread depth in the block I seem to remember??. I think it would have been fine if the difference had been identified before.

Can't remember I'd have to look back at threads. I know it happened to Adam too. I found the pic of the what (both bolts) had remained in the block. They don't look too long to have bottomed out though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/30psi/Stud.jpg

EDIT - Had a thought - I think one of the bolt holes in the DET block isn't used for the S13 brackets, but is for the S12 brackets. Maybe the thread isn't cut as deep as on the S12 blocks?

Oh well its in now and unless anything happens (fingers crossed) its staying put

i just used the s12 mounts on mine. Never had any issues. Just make sure all the mating surfaces dont have paint between them or paint/debris in the bolt threads. All this will cause less clampt friction force between the mating surfaces and the bolts will shear