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paulsilv 25-11-2012 20:50

S12 baffled sump
 
Does anyone have one laying around, or know of a company that will do it.

I have a spare one from the old ET that was pulled out to make way for the DET.

Will an ET one fit on a DET?

Is there anywhere that does aftermarket ones?

s13eater 25-11-2012 21:02

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Originally Posted by paulsilv (Post 39043)
Does anyone have one laying around, or know of a company that will do it.

I have a spare one from the old ET that was pulled out to make way for the DET.

Will an ET one fit on a DET?

Is there anywhere that does aftermarket ones?

not sure mate but i know that the det one fits the et block, gripo's has got it on, i know that from when japster had it.

paulsilv 26-11-2012 00:12

Cheers Shaun, I know Japspeed sell the winged ones for £110, but not for the DET.

I'm sure it could be done a lot cheaper by a good local welder or engineering firm.

Just need to read up on baffled sumps to come up with a good design and get it made.

paulsilv 27-11-2012 17:34

found these 3 links:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.p...highlight=sump

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.p...hlight=peugeot

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.p...ge-observation

Now my heads a shed:confused:

CNHSS1 28-11-2012 21:43

Ok, my two penneth.

The ET sump is a better design imho than the later det version. In my opinion nissan were worried about the 16v head reatining oil and not draining back to the sump so the added loads of louvres in the splash plate to allow oil flow back into the sump pan, and cut away more material around the pick up too. Trouble is that when the grip and or performa ce is increased, the oil can forced away from the pick up under cornering/braking etc. The louvres also allow the oil to surge to the back of the pan and away from the pickup under hard acceleration.

If you are using a det sump, i reckon closing up every other louvre and added a plate around the pickup copying the ET version.

If you add wings, be careful, as you will need trapdoors that are sprung ( see niscorts posts or the ally greddy SR winged sumps) or the extra oil will just surge and end up splashing all over the crank causing other issues.

Ive bought an accusump instead, just to give 10-15seconds of oil direct into the main gallery if i get surge

s13eater 28-11-2012 21:56

mt s12 is back together tomoz mate, so time for a play before the snow comes ;)

paulsilv 01-12-2012 00:41

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Originally Posted by s13eater (Post 39062)
mt s12 is back together tomoz mate, so time for a play before the snow comes ;)

Sounds sweet Shaun, will have to pop over then we can both go out to play :))

Really lost with sump business, not sure whether to go with wings or just get a hinged box made around the pickup as in one of the above posts.

This really is too deep and technical for me.

CNHSS1 03-12-2012 14:39

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this may be of interest Paul

paulsilv 03-12-2012 15:25

Thanks for the info. Had a look at these and they looked a bit costly.

Which setup have you got (Fig2 or Fig3)?

CNHSS1 03-12-2012 15:36

at the mo its plumbed as fig 3, but im wondering whether to ditch the std oil/water cooler and fit a normal oil to air coller as per fig 2.

cars not running at the mo, so will be a way off to test.


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