std silvia mk1 is 1135kg, mk2 silvia is around 1170kg, mine was 1240kg with the bodykit and those rather heavy supra leather seats.come on nots, you don't think your gonna come on a s12 forum telling us how good a rover is against a s12 and not get us biting do you ? lol

, alls that i say is, lets see it at 20 years old and see if its still on the road, let alone still perform like it did when it came out of the factory,

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