Well i fitted the porterfield pads from martin along with repacking my wheel bearings and changing my discs to 6 groove discs that i had lying in my garage from an old silvia. They feel great. i think i will end up warping the discs or boiling my fluid before these pads fade. I had my discs glowing all the colours of the rainbow earlier while testing them( after running the pads in).So yes i highly reccommend these pads. Cheers Martin