From what I've seen here in the States, the S13 has posed a problem for the S12. But in the past 3 months, I've seen more S12s on the road than in the past 2.5 years all together (not including the past 3 months). That and the average price of a S12 has gone up about $1,000 than it was last year or so. I think they will continue to go up in price, but until there is aftermarket for them or one of them gets put in a tv show or a high profile magazine, I dont think they'll ever get as much recognition as they deserve.
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