What the???

[PukkaSilvia]

http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm

[30psi]

Or from wikipedia which in a roundabout way says its an urban legend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

[JackieFan]

I tried to settle this argument one way or the other last night buy performing some experiments of my own.

I took a 04 plate Vauxhall Corsa, disconnected the fuse for the fuel pump then ran the vehicle until it stalled, spun it over some more to confirm that I'd drained the remaining Unleaded from the fuel lines.

Next I took a 24mm hole saw and, at the lowest point drilled a hole in the fuel tank. The remaining thirty or so litres spilled into the readied paper bag I had carefully placed under the area I was to drill. Putting that to one side so as not to waste any for after I'd finished my experiment I then wheeled the Vauxhall into the Farms workshop.

I used my new Dyson hoover (with antibacterial filters so that I could keep my project as controlled as possible without risk of contamination from "rouge" elements) to suck the remaining fuel vapor from the 24mm hole in my tank. Quickly realising my mistake I removed the filler cap and continued my efforts from the top side (fuel vapour is lighter than air so hoovering from the bottom of the tank would have only removed half of the remaining vapor)

Using a section cut from the bottom of a fiberglass rowing boat and some clear silicone sealer (I didn't want my experiment to be affected buy the colour of the White bathroom sealant that was also readily available to me) I covered the hole in the bottom of the tank.

Next I carefully measured and cut 6.5 meters of common garden hose, fixing a female connector to one end and the male to a metal tap at the back of the workshop. I then connected the hose to the wall at one end and fed it down the filler neck of the vauxhalls fuel cell at the other. Being careful to disconnect the battery first so as not to risk a fire! I proceeded to fill the vauxhall with 45 liters of normal tap water. I replaced the fuel cap, connected the battery and slid into the drivers seat brimming with the anticipation of my results and cranked the key.

6 hours and 10 batteries later I still hadn't managed to start the car, proving once and for all that I don't have the knowledge skills or tools to be testing any type of scientific theory in my shed, and now I need a car.

Moron out!

[old-and-rusty]

LOL... at JackieFan.....classic .
So basically you are telling us that we should either try it for ourselves and get a definitive answer or let the thread die, because we don`t have the knowledge to prove or disprove the theory .
I guess we are all just a bunch of "armchair scientists"..... .


Love the bit about the experiment controls with sealant and the dyson...LOL....FOCWL....

[PukkaSilvia]

small closed minds

[old-and-rusty]

Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia

small closed minds

Okay then, why not prove us all wrong . The patent on Stan Meyer`s device is now in the public domain and the plans can be downloaded for free.
There`s still too much "cloak and dagger" surrounding this project -
1). The H2earth website giving reasons why civilisation could be wiped out before the end of this century.
2). Stan Meyer`s mysterious "black box" that controls the process.
3). The fact that there are no verified figures available for power outputs etc, carried out on the same engine before and after the process.
4). The poisoning of the inventor.
5). The fact that mysterious officials are raiding premises where people are trying to carry out the process commercially and taking away their plans and related paperwork.
It sounds too much like an episode of the X-files .

But if you can prove us doubters wrong, I will happily stand up and apologise and say I was wrong. I can`t be fairer than that .

In fact if anyone, who lives closer to me, wants to try the process, I will gladly give them a hand.

Sceptical....me ?
Regards,
Ian.

[PukkaSilvia]

I have been looking into it for sometime with a collegue from work. i know its public domain,i have had a copy of it for a long time. Along with various other plans. I have also been in contact with designers of hydrogen generators,and spoken to high level oil consultants on the subject. It is not the right time for me to be concentrating on experimentation as i am in the middle of setting up my own business.
Wether you believe any of the above doesnt really bother me. I should just keep quiet and edit my posts and laugh at the subject like i did last time when richk suggested it

If i were to make a vehicle you standing up and apologising would be the last of my concerns.

[Speedycougar]

Ok, so it's a gas engine.

Where does all the electricity come from to perform the conversion(splitting off of) from water to hydrogen?

Matthew

[old-and-rusty]

Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia

I have been looking into it for sometime with a collegue from work. i know its public domain,i have had a copy of it for a long time. Along with various other plans. I have also been in contact with designers of hydrogen generators,and spoken to high level oil consultants on the subject. It is not the right time for me to be concentrating on experimentation as i am in the middle of setting up my own business.
Wether you believe any of the above doesnt really bother me. I should just keep quiet and edit my posts and laugh at the subject like i did last time when richk suggested it

If i were to make a vehicle you standing up and apologising would be the last of my concerns.

Oh well never mind, I`m sure someone will prove me wrong one day .
Good luck with the Business anyway, is it going to be s12 related ? Starting up a new Business is an exciting time, I hope it all goes well for you .
Regards,
Ian.