What the???

[old-and-rusty]

Firstly sorry, if I offended you Jon, I was only having a bit of fun .

I`ve done some more checking on the subject, it is possible to do, but you would actually be burning hydrogen and not water. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis (see "Brown`s Gas" or "Hydroxy" on the internet). The main problems are ceramic coatings (as stated in my previous post about rust proofing the exhaust etc) and the amount of energy needed to convert the water into hydrogen and oxygen. The amount of hydrogen released would be less than the amount of energy required to make the reaction happen.

It`s actually more cost effective to convert a car to dual-fuel, than it is to convert the car to run on water.

The "Tomorrows World" programme that this was originally featured on was shown on the 1st April, I think this says something about the process .

If anyone wants to try this out, here is a link to download the conversion process :
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm

Oil companies would be against the process if it was viable, I agree. But they didn`t manage to stop lpg or bio-diesel from being produced.

Like I said, sorry if I offended you, I was only having a bit of fun. But I`m still waiting to see a warp drive engine or working teleporter .

Regards,
Ian.

[PukkaSilvia]

im not offended.

[30psi]

Kimberly was going to try this, we all ripped the piss out of him.

Until there is a time that hydrogen can be released from water cheaply than I can't see it happening.

[old-and-rusty]

Originally Posted by 30psi

Kimberly was going to try this, we all ripped the piss out of him.

Until there is a time that hydrogen can be released from water cheaply than I can't see it happening.

Don`t get me wrong, if I thought it would actually work and be cost effective and easy to set up, I would probably try it myself. But the fact that it was first shown over ten years ago on the "Tomorrows World" programme on April 1st, sort of puts it into perspective .
You`ve got to admit though, it does sound pretty far fetched when you first hear about it.
If someone can perfect the process in the future, I will be the first to hold my hand up and say I was wrong .
Regards,
Ian.

[PukkaSilvia]

http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm

[30psi]

Or from wikipedia which in a roundabout way says its an urban legend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

[JackieFan]

I tried to settle this argument one way or the other last night buy performing some experiments of my own.

I took a 04 plate Vauxhall Corsa, disconnected the fuse for the fuel pump then ran the vehicle until it stalled, spun it over some more to confirm that I'd drained the remaining Unleaded from the fuel lines.

Next I took a 24mm hole saw and, at the lowest point drilled a hole in the fuel tank. The remaining thirty or so litres spilled into the readied paper bag I had carefully placed under the area I was to drill. Putting that to one side so as not to waste any for after I'd finished my experiment I then wheeled the Vauxhall into the Farms workshop.

I used my new Dyson hoover (with antibacterial filters so that I could keep my project as controlled as possible without risk of contamination from "rouge" elements) to suck the remaining fuel vapor from the 24mm hole in my tank. Quickly realising my mistake I removed the filler cap and continued my efforts from the top side (fuel vapour is lighter than air so hoovering from the bottom of the tank would have only removed half of the remaining vapor)

Using a section cut from the bottom of a fiberglass rowing boat and some clear silicone sealer (I didn't want my experiment to be affected buy the colour of the White bathroom sealant that was also readily available to me) I covered the hole in the bottom of the tank.

Next I carefully measured and cut 6.5 meters of common garden hose, fixing a female connector to one end and the male to a metal tap at the back of the workshop. I then connected the hose to the wall at one end and fed it down the filler neck of the vauxhalls fuel cell at the other. Being careful to disconnect the battery first so as not to risk a fire! I proceeded to fill the vauxhall with 45 liters of normal tap water. I replaced the fuel cap, connected the battery and slid into the drivers seat brimming with the anticipation of my results and cranked the key.

6 hours and 10 batteries later I still hadn't managed to start the car, proving once and for all that I don't have the knowledge skills or tools to be testing any type of scientific theory in my shed, and now I need a car.

Moron out!

[old-and-rusty]

LOL... at JackieFan.....classic .
So basically you are telling us that we should either try it for ourselves and get a definitive answer or let the thread die, because we don`t have the knowledge to prove or disprove the theory .
I guess we are all just a bunch of "armchair scientists"..... .


Love the bit about the experiment controls with sealant and the dyson...LOL....FOCWL....

[PukkaSilvia]

small closed minds