value of s12's
 

i do agree that the s12 is very underated,nissan's have allways lost their value compared with toyota's,silvia / ae86/ celica, or there 300zxtt compared with the supra, nissans are a steal for the price, the skyline will probley brake the mould and keep its price, we deffo need to keep these cars on the road and hope that people will eventually recognise them as a future classic.:cool:

i have said in the past that one day the silvia will be reaching ae86 prices and the sooner or later the notch back silvias along with our shape silvias will be imported in great numbers so lets stay strong and together on this deartment it will only benifit us in time especialy when more and more people are looking for an alternative jap rwd motor as if you look at cars know it is limited in turbo powered cars as the 80s was the glorious era for sure

yeah, long live the nissan s12 silvia zx turbo:D ,i'll keep mine until it crumbles to the floor, its also great that there's a younger generation that recognises this as a great car from the 80's.:cool:

my brother has got 3 corolla gt mk1 fwd 2 in the garden and one on the road he will never sell if i had it my way i would force nissan,toyota,mitsubishi to bring back the corolla gt(fwd) silvia and the cherry turbo and the starion and colt turbo back in a 2007 spec same shape just with more power and lux but it looks like i would need to win the lotto or bump into a rich arab who share the same idea lol
did you know that they still make mk1 vw golfs for the south african marktet apparently you can buy one for around £10k and it is all up to date to current spec imagine owning a s12 with a 55 number plate

The s12 is a future classic , no doubt about it , i know full well that the s12 i sold flexxx is worth much more than £650 , the reason i sold it was simple , this time next week the garage it lived in will be no more .i didn't have time or space to hang on to it , i ent hard up for cash and i'm glad its gone to flexxx , he appreciates it and can give it much more time than i can and if he decides to sell it in a few years when all the scabby high milers have died i'm sure he will make a mint :D :D

this is my third silvia and i am glad to say it will stay with me for as long as i live i will start a new tradition it will know become a family hierloom (i think thas how you spell it)lol

i think the cars of yesteryear have loads more charactor than cars built these day, everything now looks the bloody same:trout ,i bet there's a japanese bloke somewhere who has an hole collection of old nissans in his lock up:D

i said the same thing to ian7v that the s12 has character compare to other cars on the scene nowadays as nowadays all cars not only look the same but are roughly the same car just in different bodies and it all a bit too boring where as the lucky residents arund the world got the full monty having their pick at models that we dont get

I would value any et s12 in good condition with tax and mot at being worth about £950-£1500 .Full tax and mot on a car to me is worth £500.

I will be interested to see how things stand in about 8 years time

I think the biggest problem for S12 values at the moment is S13 values! You can pick up an S13 for under a grand and there just don't seem to be many people out there willing to pay the same or more for an S12 when they can get an S13 instead :(

The S12 may have more character and be rarer, but how many Nissan collectors are really out there? Even if there are a couple of dozen (which seems the likely maximum) that's not enough to turn the car into a 'collectors item' in my opinion.

The S12 is a great car :cool: but I reckon they're a good few years away yet from being worth serious cash.

The first thing everyone needs to realise is that S12's aren't rare. A rare car is one you never ever see around. Only 6 months ago I saw a white S12 parked outside a house 20 doors down the road from mine. A rare car is one where you struggle to get parts for. And I mean REALLY struggle. If you owned a Delorean and someone twatted the car, you really would be in the shit. But with an S12, you could easily find the parts. A rare car is one where you need to wait a few months to see another one for sale. When my 1st S12 was written off, it took me about 3 days to find another one.

Thats why I'm storing parts for my Datsun. I know that if someone smashed the rear screen I'd be proper fubared. There's only 5 or so registered in the UK compared to 600 registered s12's.

I struggled for ages to sell my FJ20 to the point where I could only consider scrapping it and keeping the engine. Luckily that didnt happen.

Now for some statistics:

There's 93,000 square miles in the UK. 600 taxed S12's. Thats one every 155 square mile. That means on average there is a registered S12 12.5 miles away from you (on average). Now naturally you won't find an S12 up the top of Ben Nevis or any other sparsly populated area, so I think it would be safe to assume that we could halve that, and say where ever you are in the UK there will be an S12 parked up in a road approx 6 miles from you.

This excludes the untaxed S12's as well. There's prob another 600 untaxed.

The S12 won't ever reach the value of the AE86. Never ever. The drifting scene is quite a poncy fashionable scene, where all the drifters want to be seen with the biggest handbrakes :ghey , 12" wide Advan Supers S's in an AE86. All because some of the original Jap drifters like Keichi Tsuchiya used to run cars like this. Then some drifters started using big cars like the Soarer and the Cefiro, and a few UK tarts have caught on and have bought them. I think they're pretty cheap cars to be fair but I bet they're value is increasing in Japan.

There's huge demand for the AE86, all because its 'the' car for a drifter to own. I can see why the AE86 was used in the 90's for drifting. It was light, had a nice revvy responsive engine and has an exellent LSD. I've been in a completely standard one and it was stripped. It was underpowered but managed the drifts really well considering. I would never own one though. Unfortunatley the S12 hasn't a very responsive revvy engine as standard, it isn't light and nimble and don't have the LSD.:(

If you look at equities. The price of a stock changes due to the balance of supply and demand. If there is a huge demand in comparison to the number of items for sale, then the price will increase as well. If there isn't much demand in comparison, then someone will just have to sell their equities at the lower market rate, or wait for the demand to increase. Just like an S12.

The price of the S12 is completely dependant on the demand for one. Which unfortunately isn't huge. Look at Gripo trying to sell his car. If he was selling that car for the price he wants for it now say 18 months ago, I would have bought it outright. Don't know if its sold now though. I would have expected it to sell very quick.

Now before everyone starts trying to flame me etc etc for dissing S12's and saying their worth nothing bla bla bla, I'm not. I haven't even mentioned the S13. I'm purely being realistic and talking completely from experience. It would be great if the S12 would increase in value, maybe it will a little but its not going to be material.

Im Happy
 

Im so happy with my S12, i belive it has character,its better than any of the boring new cars that all look the same and sound the same. You can do so much stuff to them with not much money.
People dont seem to appreciate them which is a shame, im 21 and mines going to be with me until it dies and unrepairable which should be after i die lol:D

From what I've seen here in the States, the S13 has posed a problem for the S12. But in the past 3 months, I've seen more S12s on the road than in the past 2.5 years all together (not including the past 3 months). That and the average price of a S12 has gone up about $1,000 than it was last year or so. I think they will continue to go up in price, but until there is aftermarket for them or one of them gets put in a tv show or a high profile magazine, I dont think they'll ever get as much recognition as they deserve.

mine had a full feature in the jap performace mag mate.i think it was issue 11,the cover page was a black gtir and the title was nitrous'ed nissans.

i think the thing to remeber here is that car values all over have hit rock bottom,even new cars let alone used cars.but what we are talking about here is not your average hatchback and there werent millions made just thousands.all the real sporty nissans like to s12,s13,s14,s15 and skyline were all built in japan and not sunderland!.the silvia was also built to a high standard in its time and was over engineered,adding to this rear wheel drive and a turbo and you have one very special car.now the silvia is a near 20 year old car and really only known and enjoyed by enthusiasts and isnt even listed in the parkers guide so second hand values are really not market led because there isnt one just enthusiasts who know and respect them.
a very low mileage car with full history in excellent condition far outways a car with 2-3 times more mileage especially if its been looked after,and it doesnt matter wether its a mk1 fiesta or a morris minor the fact is these rare cars will always command a premium over older cars and really is just a case of finding the right buyer who wants that.

As with all old cars it's only worth what someone is prepared to pay for one when your selling it. That's why at classic car auctions a car will go for a stupidly high price and the next week the same make and model in the same condition will go for half the price of the week before. So disscussing the price of an old car are pointless.

yeah i think your right there to a point,it really only has value to the owner and whoever is prepared to own that car and if they want it bad enough.also values go up and down so it really is down to finding that right person for your car.

perhaps the s12 club should arrange a concours event and display some prime examples on there stand at the next show or something as i would be happy to display my car,and im sure there are more than a couple of owners with mint silvias on here..