Flame me here........

JackieFan · #1 23-07-2007, 13:51

All Hondas are like that too though, They are designed to be thrashed, it's how they make their power

..... plus they sound awesome

Wocketfast · #2 23-07-2007, 13:58

Seriously though its alot of money for not alot of car, bit like buying the kings new clothes, all hype based on an average cartoon if you ask me.

PukkaSilvia · #3 23-07-2007, 14:04

i think id vtec it with an h20 engine martin. Like what was in my prelude.
Its just my work rubbing off on me. Do you by any chance know what weights you can get them down too .

Ive done so much to the s12 that im not happy that its not perfect. I will look out for a mk2 f or g plate in as mint as poss condition. they do turn up and there cheap. Whereas i have the feeling the corrollas are going to cntinue to climb in value over the next few years

30psi · #4 23-07-2007, 14:09

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Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia

Do you by any chance know what weights you can get them down too .

Very light, circa 1,000kg fully stripped. The 4age engine is supposed to be quite light as its fairly small as well.

Its got a 5 link solid axle at the rear, which despite being a bit old hat for the time, is supposed to be quite good for drifting.

I would however try to get some opinions of them when used as a grip car though. When I went out in one it was just drifted so can't comment too much on what it was like on a chase.

Wocketfast · #5 23-07-2007, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Pukkasilvia

... that im not happy that its not perfect.

I hope a corrolla of similar age live up to your high expectations [

] judging from the way you vanished off down a strip of road on the drive home I'd say yours was pretty darn near perfect really for a 20 year old car.

no denying the corrolla do make a lovery noice though at full chat

kenneth · #6 23-07-2007, 16:30

hi just read this ,i had a 85 ae86 for ten years great car 85 model is best different gearing compared to 86 model mine was capable of 147mph with just a full janspeed and k+n filter and seven inch revoulations .now have fj silvia under rebuild.

doski · #7 23-07-2007, 20:17

sad to hear your braking the car up.... would you not prefer to keep your silvia as it is and use that as well as have the ae86???

I have never seen your car but from what i have seen of it in pics i would say its an awesome looking example of a s12

slimreaper · #8 23-07-2007, 22:14

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Originally Posted by doski

would you not prefer to keep your silvia as it is and use that as well as have the ae86???

Don't do that, i want your wheels and engine! As for the weight of AE86, 950kg for the coupe, think the hatch about 20kg more, thats fully loaded with the interior. With a serious diet i think 700kgs would easily be achievable. As for power there are lots of options, a common engine conversions is 2.0 3S-GE from a MR2 non turbo or lexus/altezza IS200. Personally i would leave the 4AGE. With the right knowledge and money you can make them rev to that magic 10,000rpm

with about 200bhp+ in extreme examples i've see 220bhp. So stripped out and tuned to the extreme thats a power to weight ratio of 285bhp per tonne and a 06 BMW M3 is about 220 bhp per tonne. I think you should get one, if you don't like it just put it in a garage for a 6 months and it will of doubled in value

30psi · #9 23-07-2007, 14:05

Yeah I agree with Wocketfast. They are overpriced due to the drifting heritage, but realistically you don't get a lot for your money. They aren't like the Honda vtec's, which surge at their rpm limit, you just have to try very hard with the 4Age engine.

I'd prefer a Mk1 Escort with a tuned Pinto...

PukkaSilvia · #10 23-07-2007, 14:09

you dont get alot with the cars at my work. Try spending 45k on a 150hp stipped out alfa gta or 38k for a wooden marcos with a 1800 amazon engine with 170hp. when im surrounded with cars like that 4k for a corrola seems reasonable